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01/02/2013

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I sit on a NP board, and have Chaired NP boards in the past. I have NEVER seen or experienced the kind of behavior described in your post. People are drawn to the NP world because of emotional and/or spiritual beliefs, which precludes the misbehavior you refer to. If it IS occurring, then the Board environment has become toxic, and it's governance ineffective.

Congratulations, John! You have obviously dealt with a much better class of non-profits than I to make such sweeping generalizations and firm conclusions. My experiences have been less uniformly positive.

Personally, and as cited, I have known more than a few NP executives whose toxic emotional and spiritual beliefs found freer rein there than ever would have been permitted in the more closely regulated for-profit world. And that's before I consider the politicians, too. I have never found 501(c) status sufficient to guarantee propriety and government regulations like IRC 4958 seem to prove that others agree that it doesn't automatically confer sainthood. Wish it were otherwise... and it is good to hear that my view is indeed excessively dark.

I'm catching up on my Comp Cafe reading...so I was a little caught off guard by Jim's post here. Really Jim, the for-profit world is without repute? Worldcom, Enron, all those Accounting firms (ie.Arthur Anderson et al) rubber stamping the financials of their clients in order to keep the business. Sexual harrassment, pay discrimination, the list is infinite. I think I must have missed something here. So my apologize if I have but the answer is No. Lack of pay does not lead to lack of discipline. Lack of discipline leads to inappropriate behavior.

Oops. reproach NOT repute.

Naw, I've seen lots of offenses from the for-profit world, so they are certainly not pristine models of proper behavior. Heck, I was the expert witness against Michael Milken's pay in the DBL bankruptcy settlement and I wrote the job evaluation pamphlet for the National Committee for Pay Equity. But public corporations DO operate under many rules of specified transparency, fiduciary regulations and required disclosures that simply don't exist or generally don't apply at not-for-profits. NonProfits operate mostly "under the radar" as they do the usually quite marvelous works that win them tax-exemption in exchange for open publication of their Form 990s; therefore, there are many opportunities for equally bad behaviors which are less likely to be either suspected or discovered.

The tiny group of bad-acting NFP execs tend to be far smaller, and less carefully policed by regulators and the media, too, because their offenses are typically unlikely to be either obvious or to have noticeable economic effects on society. Maybe that's why people seem so shocked when officials of some charity, foundation or other NFP turns out to have feet of clay. You don't have to claim perfection for big business in order to notice abuses at NFPs, but there ARE more controls and monitoring systems in place at commercial operations that force discipline. You are completely correct that lack of discipline is bad for all. Pay tends to produce a contractual expectation for disciplined behavior that can disappear when cash compensation is absent and the transaction is considered "social" rather than "commercial." But I will be pleased to be found wrong if lack of accountability does not facilitate a lack of discipline.

And THANKS to Ann Bares for re-activating the comment response section so I could semi-agree with you!

Great conversation you've started, Jim. Thanks John and Patti for sharing your own thoughts and observations.

My reactions when I first read Jim's post -
(1) I have observed the same thing in my own work with nonprofits - mostly in the attitudes of immediate managers/supervisors. In exploring ways to drive and reward performance, I have had a number of managers state their opinion that they struggle to hold employees accountable for stated performance standards when they believe those employees are paid below the market value of their skills. (2) The phenomenon, if it does exist, is consistent with classic equity theory, which holds that employees seek to maintain equity between the inputs they bring to a job and the outputs they receive from it (which, obviously, can be in the form of cash... or not). According to the theory, employees who believe they are under-rewarded will seek to restore the balance by adjusting their inputs ... i.e.their work efforts.

Great discussion all!

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